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Test and gimicks of a foam layup

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 3:34 pm
by tx river rat
Did some test you might find interesting
I was using pink foam from Home Depot 1 inch thick 6inches wide by 2 ft long

I made several samples using 6 ounce cloth and epoxy covering both sides with just one heavy coat.

After drying a couple days the test piece was very ridged and stiff

I placed both ends on a block and slowly started putting presure in the middle , I finally got enough pressure in the middle that the foam collapsed leaving both sides of the cloth attached. Pretty strong layup.
Next I did another piece , I drilled holes on four inch center after coating on both sides with cloth and epoxy. I used the small wooden skewers like you use for cooking inserted them in the holes and cut them flush, the put some wood flour epoxy mix on them.

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After drying a couple days I tried to break it , put a ton of my weight on it , very little give ,finally took a 2+4 placed on edge between the pegs
put a lot of weight on it ,it finaly broke ,but it pulled the 6 ounce glass into before it did. You can see the foam is not deformed it snapped clean

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On the bottom side of the top piece you can see where it tore into ,I cut the other side with a knife. This piece was really strong,now if I had glass down the edges I dont think I could break it.

I then to a framing hammer and using the same force it would take to drive a 16 boxing nail hit the same spot 30 times .

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I did this between the right four pegs , can you even see it, I had to roll it up on edge to see any indentions at all , the hammer was used flat just like you would drive a nail.

What I am doing with this method is tying both skins together so a hard blow is transferred not just on the outside but to both sides at once and the wood dowels make a truss. Also if you take a hard blow it keeps most of the impact and damage inside the square made by the dowel.
Might make a light strong little boat
Ron

Re: Test and gimicks of a foam layup

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 3:45 pm
by jem
Interesting experiments! What always stumped me is how do you get the foam to bend like plywood? You could do foam strips but not sure it could be done in foam "panels" like foam panels. Maybe with some slitting or scoring?

Re: Test and gimicks of a foam layup

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 4:09 pm
by tx river rat
Glass one side of the panels so the foam is in a compression mod, they can be bent pretty easily, also setting in the sun and doing a little more presure as they warm up let it sit then do it again.
Ron

Re: Test and gimicks of a foam layup

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 12:56 am
by tx river rat
Matt what would you think about a Cuda in foam or do you think the duck would be a better choice?
Ron

Re: Test and gimicks of a foam layup

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 4:08 am
by PiratePete
I have read a book on building a kevlar canoe where they made up a plug for the hull out of that foam the same way as you do if strip building & then they put a shim of plaster over it to fair it out. Then they waxed the finished plug & laid the hull up with kevlar.

I will see if I can find the name of the book.

Re: Test and gimicks of a foam layup

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 5:24 am
by PiratePete
Building your Kevlar canoe: a foolproof method and three foolproof designs.

Re: Test and gimicks of a foam layup

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 8:41 pm
by goanywhere
You can buy foam in thin panels that could be glassed and would be able to be formed much like plywood. You would end up with a super light boat. You could use thicker panels for bulkheads, floors etc. I think it could have potential. Also, if it leaked it definitely wouldn't sink.